Fifth Tuning Beat Rate Calculator

Fifth Tuning Beat Rate Calculator

Estimate the beat rate of a tuned fifth by comparing the lower note's 3rd partial with the upper note's 2nd partial, including temperament width, stretch, and inharmonicity trim.

🎯 Fifth tuning presets

Listening rule: for a fifth, the main coincident pair is lower note partial 3 against upper note partial 2. A 12-TET fifth is about 1.955 cents narrower than pure, so it beats slowly.

Beat-rate inputs

Common references include 415.30, 432, 440, and 442 Hz.
The upper note is calculated a fifth above this pitch.
Scientific pitch notation: middle C is C4.
This sets the musical width before the extra trim fields.
Used only when the temperament selector is set to custom.
Positive raises the upper note; negative narrows the fifth.
Applied across the 7-semitone span of the fifth.
Standard fifth check uses the lower note 3rd partial.
Standard fifth check uses the upper note 2nd partial.
Set 0 for ideal strings or non-piano tone references.
Small values raise upper partials slightly in piano strings.
Controls the beat-rate and frequency readouts.
Fifth Beat Rate
0.735 Hz
beats per second
Beat Period
1.36 s
time between pulses
Upper Note Target
329.63 Hz
E4 above A3
Fifth Width
700.000 c
-1.955 c from pure

Calculation Breakdown

📊 Tuning comparison grid

220.00 Hz

Lower fundamental

Starting note before the fifth is placed above it.

330.00 Hz

Pure upper target

The exact 3:2 upper frequency for the same lower note.

660.00 Hz

Listening band

The partial region where the fifth beat is heard.

Slow

Beat feel

Practical counting category for the selected fifth.

🎵 Fifth temperament table

Temperament targetFifth widthDifference from pure 3:2Beat character
Pure 3:2 or Pythagorean fifth701.955 cents0.000 centsPartials align before inharmonicity or stretch
12-TET equal temperament700.000 cents−1.955 centsSlow narrow fifth beat, faster in high registers
Sixth-comma meantone model698.371 cents−3.584 centsNoticeably narrower than equal temperament
Quarter-comma meantone696.578 cents−5.377 centsStrongly tempered fifth supporting sweeter thirds
Mild well temperament model698.500 cents−3.455 centsUseful for a deliberately colored fifth
Open well fifth model701.000 cents−0.955 centsNearly pure, with a very slow residual beat

🎚 Example fifth beat-rate table

Fifth checkLower frequency12-TET upper frequencyApprox 3:2 beat
A3 to E4220.00 Hz329.63 HzAbout 0.735 Hz, or 1.36 seconds per beat
D4 to A4293.66 Hz440.00 HzAbout 0.981 Hz, or 1.02 seconds per beat
C3 to G3130.81 Hz196.00 HzAbout 0.437 Hz, or 2.29 seconds per beat
F3 to C4174.61 Hz261.63 HzAbout 0.583 Hz, or 1.71 seconds per beat
A4 to E5440.00 Hz659.26 HzAbout 1.469 Hz, or 0.68 seconds per beat

🧮 Fifth beat formula table

StepFormulaWhat it meansCalculator field
Lower pitchA4 x 2^((midi - 69) / 12)Converts the lower note to frequencyReference pitch, note, octave
Fifth targetlower Hz x 2^(width cents / 1200)Places the upper note at the selected fifth widthTemperament, custom width, trim
Partial frequencyfundamental x partial x sqrt(1 + B x partial^2)Models ideal or inharmonic partialsPartial numbers, B values
Beat rateabsolute lower partial minus upper partialAudible pulses per second between the two partialsResult card and breakdown

Beat-feel reference table

Beat rateBeat periodCounting methodPractical reading
0 to 0.25 Hz4 seconds or slowerListen over a long held toneNearly pure or very low-register fifth
0.25 to 1 Hz1 to 4 secondsCount 3 to 8 pulses and divide by timeNormal slow fifth territory in the middle register
1 to 2 Hz0.5 to 1 secondCount a short 5-second sampleUpper register fifth or a more tempered width
2 to 4 Hz0.25 to 0.5 secondCompare against nearby checksFast fifth color or high treble partial band
4 Hz and aboveUnder 0.25 secondUse relative roughness more than countingLikely very high, very narrow, or wrong partial pair

🔍 Partial-pair table for fifths

PairPure alignmentUse caseWatch for
3 against 2Standard 3:2 fifthMain piano and ensemble fifth checkBest default for this calculator
6 against 4Same ratio one octave higherHigher color check when fundamentals are unclearInharmonicity can exaggerate the beat
9 against 6Third harmonic line againBright treble inspectionSmall cent changes produce faster pulses
1 against 1Not a fifth alignmentFrequency distance onlyDo not use as a fifth beat reference
Tip for counting: Let the attack settle, then count several pulses over 8 to 10 seconds. Slow fifth beats are easier to average than to judge from one wave.
Tip for partials: Keep the partial pair fixed when comparing adjacent fifths. Switching from 3:2 to a higher pair changes the apparent speed even if the cents width is unchanged.

People often say that tuning a piano is more of an art than science but actualy it’s very much about negotiating with physics. It is not simply about getting one note to sound in tune with another note. It is about dealing with the acoustic fact that when these strings are pulled taut, they does not want to be mathematical sine waves.

The key element here is the fifth. This link the octave together and forms the harmonic lattice. Get the fifths incorrect and the entire instrument becomes unsteady.

Why the Fifth Interval Matters

The calculator above shows exactly how fast those beats should pulse for each interval so you don’t have to rely on a vague memory of what you think is correct. It makes the rather abstract idea of temperament into something real and measurable by frequency.

Understanding the fifth means understanding the beat. Listen: if you understand the fifth then you understand the beat. A fifth in just intonation is what we call a pure interval. However, when tuned on an instrument using equal temperament, the interval becomes slightly narrower than a pure just fifth. This results in a slight beat or slow pulse created by the second partial of the top note aligning with the third partial of the bottom note. That’s what you’re hearing. The volume undulates gently.

Most people think they are listening to the fundamental tones, but the alignment actualy happens in the higher partials. If all you listen to is the fundamentals, you’ll never ever hear the beat of the fifth. You have to tune your ear up into the overtone series. When tuning, the tool assumes you are checking the standard 3:2 partial pair. This is the industry standard because it gives the cleanest signal with the least amount of interference from other harmonics.

As you travel upwards on the keyboard, the speed of that beat change quite a lot. At the bottom end in the bass, the pulses feel spaced out and slow. Maybe once a second; maybe twice, maybe three times. By contrast, up in the treble region, the pulses has become much quicker. Although the cent width of the intervals is constant (in this example), the absolute frequency separation of the partials becomes increasingly greater with increasing pitch. For instance, a 700-cent fifth will pulse much more rapidly at A4-E5 different than C3-G3.

The calculator takes care of all of this automatically. There’s no need to try to mentally adjust how fast you should of be counting. All you have to know is that the speed of the pulsing changes, and why that is. That avoids the trap of forcing the sounds of the treble to mimic those in the bass. It simply doesn’t happen. What happens instead is the ear adjusts to the register, but the math remain strictly exact.

The other variable that gives amateur tuner trouble is inharmonicity. Strings in a piano are stiff. They create overtones which is sharper than those predicted by the theoretical harmonic series. This means that even when you create a pure fifth on a piano, it won’t really sound pure because the string’s own stiffness causes its partials to be naturaly out of alignment. You need to stretch the tuning to compensate. The inharmonicity inputs let you model this reality. Without them, you’re tuning for some idealized instrument that doesn’t exist. Set a realistic B value for strings and what happens? Your target frequencies matches the physical behavior of the instrument you’re holding. It bridges the gap between theoretical cents and practical cents.

You may not know that today’s piano does not rely on temperament as much as you would imagine, but it still has its own character. Equal temperament divides up the error equally. If we go back further, there are mean tone temperaments where thirds becomes sweeter. This results in narrower fifths and a quicker beat. You can see from the tool just how close or far apart they was tuned and how their characteristic sound differed.

Today, 12-tone equal temperament is used by most as the default system; the fifth is set precisely to 700 cents. This is 1.955 cents narrow of being ‘pure’. That very small difference produce the beat. It is a little thing but an important one. Without it, the piano would be nothing more than a terribel instrument to play in every key. However, that is not quite true because that small amount of dissonance is also what allows the piano to play in all keys without sounding terrible in any.

Choose a pitch to tune from (this is called a reference pitch) and work outward. As you do so, use the calculator to check the rate at which you are beating. Trust what the math tells you if it contradicts what your ears report: sometimes the acoustics of the room and other sympathetic vibrations can trick our ears. If your ears say a fifth is wide but the math says it should be slow, trust the math. Not so: the numbers don’t lie. They exactly indicate how the partials line up.

If you beat at 0.7 Hz in the middle register, for example, you’ll begin to hear the pulse and the space between them equally and develop a feel for time that works in your favor. That’s the key to quickly and accurately tuning. It’s not about chasing after a dead silence; it’s about finding a consistent, distinct rhythm. The calculator will give you tempo and your ears will add the music.

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